Meeting Summary
HMSPDT
Seattle, WA
March 13-15, 2000
Members Present:
Dr. David Au, NMFS - SWFSC, La Jolla
Dr. Norm Bartoo, NMFS - SWFSC, La Jolla
Mr. Steve Crooke, CDFG, Long Beach
Dr. Sam Herrick, NMFS - SWFSC, La Jolla
Ms. Jean McCrae, ODFW, Newport
Ms. Michele Robinson, WDFW, Olympia
Ms. Susan Smith, NMFS - SWFSC, La Jolla
Dr. Dale Squires, NMFS - SWFSC, La Jolla
Also attending were Beth Mitchell, NOAA General Counsel, Svein Fougner, NMFS -SWR, and
Larry Six, on contract with SWR to coordinate plan development.
Members of the public in attendance on one or more days during the meeting included:
Kate Wing, National Resources Defense Council
Chuck Janisse, Federation of Independent Seafood Harvesters
Doug Fricke, Washington Trollers Association
Tana McHale, Western Fishboat Owners Association and American Fisheries Research
Foundation
Wayne Heikkila, WFOA/AFRF
Dan Erickson, Wildlife Conservation Society
Bob Osborn, United Anglers of Southern California
Peter Flournoy, AFRF/International Law Offices
Patrick Higgins, Canadian Consulate General
Daniel Gunn, Seattle
Vidar Wespestad, The Billfish Foundation
Review of Process to Date
Svein Fougner summarized the plan development process from the beginning. Michele
Robinson and Larry Six distributed summaries of Council guidance and action from the March 9
Council meeting in Sacramento. Larry Six reviewed the Team meeting schedule through April
2001, and Peter Flournoy summarized the HMS Advisory meeting in Sacramento on March 8.
Communication with the Public
Steve Crooke stated that CDFG intends to send a mailing to every licensed vessel in California as
well as about 200 organizations notifying them of this process. The Team agreed that Team
meeting summaries and Team reports should be posted on the Council website after they have
been approved by the Team. Advisory Subpanel recommendations and Council actions also
should be posted. Larry Six stated that staff intends to post the Council minutes, which include
Team and Advisor reports and Council actions. Peter Flournoy raised the issue of a bulletin
board or chat room for HMS. There was no consensus on this issue. Peter also was concerned
about the lack of public attendance at this meeting despite efforts by states and the Council to
advertise the meeting.
Status of International Discussions and Actions
Svein Fougner briefly summarized events at IATTC and MHLC. Peter Flournoy mentioned that
USFWS is recommending that basking sharks be added to CITES and was concerned about lack
of consultation with NMFS and the Council on this matter. Svein Fougner will send copies of
the FR notice (proposal to add basking shark).
Wayne Heikkila and Doug Fricke described the albacore fishery, Chuck Janisse described the
driftnet fishery, and Patrick Higgins mentioned that Canada was considering limited entry for the
albacore fishery.
Species Coverage
On March 9, the Council endorsed the Team's proposal for two species lists (management unit
species and associated species) and the flexibility to move species between lists, but also
requested that the Team compile information on all species and identify any data gaps.
Beth Mitchell noted that a framework procedure for moving species between lists may not be any
easier or quicker than a plan amendment, and she felt more comfortable with the plan
amendment process from a legal standpoint. Beth also stated that species can be included in the
management unit for the purposes of data collection or bycatch.
The Team concluded that there may not be an advantage to having two lists if a framework
procedure is not a good idea. The Team decided to begin with one list of all species that are
landed by HMS gear and develop a matrix of species and criteria that would help in making the
decision about which species to include in the management unit.
The criteria to be included in the matrix are:
- is the species highly migratory as defined in the Magnuson-Stevens Act or Annex I of the
Law of the Sea?
- is it important in the landings (i.e., moderate to high value)?
- is there a special biological concern for the species?
- is it a likely candidate for international regulation?
- does a biological-based MSY estimate exist or can one be calculated with the available
information?
- does age and growth information exist?
- does information on essential fish habitat exist?
- does satisfactory economic information exist?
- is the species also bycatch in a HMS fishery?
- is the species caught by commercial or recreational fisheries or both?
- is it included in the management unit of the Western Pacific Council Pelagics Plan?
- do species-specific federal regulations exist?
- what special issues exist, if any?
The Team developed two versions of the matrix. Draft #1 includes all species landed by HMS
gear and draft #2 eliminates the following species: brown and gray smoothound sharks, horn
shark, mud shark, Pacific angel shark, swell shark, and opaleye.
During a later discussion of the species matrix, the Team decided to add another column to the
matrix entitled "data source" and to add a description of the column headings. The Team also
discussed additional species, including bullet mackerel, mola, black skipjack and shortbill
spearfish. The Team decided it was appropriate to consider additional species but opted to wait
until the June meeting. Michele Robinson will revise the matrices per Team discussion.
Review of HMS Gear Types
Sam Herrick presented numerous tables of commercial (PacFIN) landings by nominal HMS and
non-HMS gears. The analysis groups HMS gears into the following categories: albacore bait,
albacore troll, HMS driftnet, HMS longline, swordfish harpoon and tuna purse seine. (At the
March meeting, the Council adopted the following 5 gear groups: surface hook and line, pelagic
driftnet, pelagic longline, pelagic purse seine and harpoon).
Based on the results presented, it appears that there may be some significant errors in coding
gears on the fish tickets, and it is difficult to distinguish between HMS fisheries and non-HMS
fisheries within gear codes. For example, there is no way to distinguish set longline gear from
pelagic longline gear in California. These discrepancies create a misleading picture about
landings by HMS gears and non-HMS gears. The Team recognizes these problems and
emphasized that this is a work in progress which should not be cited or distributed.
Bycatch
The Team discussed the sources of bycatch information. These include the driftnet fishery
observer program, former experimental drift longline fishery for blue shark (CALCOFI), IATTC
work group on bycatch, longline fishery outside 200 miles, experimental driftnet fisheries for
thresher shark off Washington and Oregon, and voluntary logbooks for albacore.
There was some discussion about predation "bycatch." This should not be considered bycatch,
but needs to be accounted for as part of total fishing mortality. Data on predation exists for the
driftnet fishery.
State Regulations
Michele Robinson distributed an updated draft (draft #2, March 2) of comparison of state
regulations for HMS fisheries. She asked that Oregon and California review this draft. The
Council asked the Team to identify any problems as a result of inconsistent or missing
regulations and develop recommendations for resolving problems.
Chuck Janisse felt there were some glaring inconsistencies in regulations. For instance,
California driftnetters cannot land in Oregon or Washington. California prohibits longlining but
Oregon has a longline permit fishery, so an Oregon vessel could fish with longline gear outside 3
miles off California and land in Oregon. Chuck agreed to send an e-mail to the Team which
documents these problems.
Collaboration with Western Pacific Team
David Au reported on his effort to coordinate with the Western Pacific Team on the development
of definitions of overfishing and estimating MSY, F, F(msy), B, and B(msy). The Atlantic FMP
is considered the model for control rules for HMS species. Svein Fougner said that there is a
need to get the Atlantic HMS people together with the Western Pacific and Pacific folks to
discuss a common definition of overfishing. It was suggested that this might be done at the
upcoming tuna conference May 22-25.
Team Assignments
Drafting assignments were made for most of the major sections of the fishery management plan.
Dale Squires and Steve Crooke will draft a FMP outline for Team review during the April 26
video conference.
Consideration of Alternatives
Dale Squires proposed that the Team and Subpanel work closely on development of alternatives.
Joint Team and Subpanel meetings would be helpful in this regard. The Subpanel should provide
a set of alternatives on each issue in writing to the Team and Council. This should include
objectives and rationale. The Team reserves the right to add alternatives that it thinks should be
included. The Team is responsible for analyzing the impacts of the alternatives. Because of
time and work load, the Team may have to prioritize or limit the number of alternatives to be
analyzed.
Regulatory Impact Review and Regulatory Flexibility Analysis
Dale Squires described the requirements for the RIR and RFA. The RIR requires a cost-benefit
analysis. If it is not possible to quantify net benefits, then a qualitative analysis will suffice. The
purpose of the RFA is to analyze the impacts on small entities. For both efforts, cost data are
needed. Dale and Tana McHale described the effort to obtain cost information from the albacore
fleet. The intent is to survey other fleets when funds become available. Chuck Janisse
mentioned that the California Seafood Council may have funds for doing a survey of the driftnet
fleet. Sam Herrick mentioned that there is a survey ongoing of the charterboat fleet, and the
Marine Recreational Fisheries Statistics Survey has collected economic information from
anglers.
Essential Fish Habitat
Michele Robinson reported on her review of other FMPs. The Western Pacific Pelagics Plan has
good information on EFH of tunas, but not sharks. David Au and Susan Smith have agreed to
help out on sharks. Michele proposed that we use some information from the Pacific Council
salmon and groundfish plans on fishing and non-fishing impacts.
Stock Assessment Update
Norm Bartoo distributed revised stock assessment protocols (March 5 draft). NMFS prepares
some assessments (albacore, yellowfin, swordfish, blue shark), but all assessments go through
the appropriate international forum.
Next Meeting
The next Team meeting is a video conference on April 26. Participating video stations are the
Southwest Fisheries Science Center in La Jolla, the Southwest Regional Office in Long Beach,
the NMFS Portland office, and the Northwest Regional Office in Seattle. The conference begins
at 8:30 a.m. and ends at 4:30 p.m. The agenda includes the draft FMP outline and updates on
Team drafting assignments.
LDS for PFMC
Revised 04/13/00
DAW
Revised 04/14/00
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